Winds" Arbitration

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Winds" Arbitration

January 15, 2022, 10:44:31 AM

Expiring Rookie
Jesse Winker $2.50M

ARB1
Ozzie Albies $5.50M
Aaron Judge $7.00M
Lucas Giolito $5.50M
Joe Musgrove $3.50M

The Winds will not offer arbitration to Sean Newcomb

Please check for any errors

Re: Winds" Arbitration

Reply #1 – January 15, 2022, 09:55:11 PM

Winker, Giolito and Musgrove are all correct. But Albie and Judge are off. Should be:

Albies' 4.2 WAR adjusts his salary by $2.5mn to $6mn total.
Judge's 5.5 WAR adjusts his salary by $3mn to $6mn total.

Great job figuring this one out so quickly.

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Reply #2 – January 15, 2022, 11:34:24 PM

OK - I see where I screwed up Albies salary. I looked at the wrong salary increase schedule but I think Judge had 6.0 WAR which would increase his salary by $4.0M to $7.0. Not that I want to pay more, mind you. Where did I error with Judge? Also, I show Albies WAR as 3.4. Am I looking at the wrong stats? Help!

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Reply #3 – January 16, 2022, 06:36:52 AM

Are you looking at WAR on baseball reference (i.e. bWAR)? We actually use Fangraphs (fWAR) for our arbitration where Judge is showing a 5.5, not a 6.0.

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Reply #4 – January 16, 2022, 07:40:43 AM

Yes, I was using Baseball Reference for my stats info. Quite honestly I didn't think WAR varied from site to site. Obviously it does and in Albies' case by a significant amount. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

mike

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Reply #5 – January 16, 2022, 08:03:57 AM

No problem Mike. We think the issue is that Fangraphs loves defense much more so than Baseball Reference.

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Reply #6 – January 16, 2022, 08:36:59 AM

OK. IMHO defensive ratings are a bit more subjective and prone to findings that may not pass the "sight test.' Still smoothing the bumps out I suppose. Anyway, thanks for setting me straight.

mike

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Reply #7 – January 16, 2022, 09:30:17 AM

Agreed though it does cut both ways. Judge is rated lower by Fangraphs. My guess is primarily because of defense.

The real question is: is MLB monitoring MSB for its ideas? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10017936-report-mlb-proposes-basing-player-salaries-off-fangraphs-war-instead-of-arbitration

Re: Winds" Arbitration

Reply #8 – January 17, 2022, 02:27:44 PM

Newcomb released in the database.