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Title: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: dgonser on January 29, 2017, 08:28:12 PM
We will be winding down free agency in a few weeks and with a couple months before the minor league draft a few of us thought it would be a good time to float the idea of a game of Diplomacy.

(http://cdn.citylab.com/media/img/citylab/legacy/2013/03/07/697px-Screenshot-playdiplomacy.jpg)

For those that aren't familiar, Diplomacy is a board game from the mid 50's rumored to be played by everyone form Asmiov to Cronkite to Kennedy and Kissinger.  The game is well suited for being played online through private messages on forums and emails. 

7 players play Great Powers of Europe on the eve of World War 1.  As a leader of one of the Great Powers, Austria, England, France, Germany, Italy, Russia or Turkey, your goal is to conquer the European world, but you can't do it alone.  You'll rely on others to enter into agreements of non-aggression, demilitarized zones, or support you into enemy territory.   But as you succeed the temptation for allies to turn on you becomes greater and greater.  95% of this game is convincing others to do what you want them to do and about 5% is tactics on the actual board.

The game would require responding and sending a couple of emails a day and submitting "orders" a couple of times a week. The actual time commitment could be anywhere from 1 hour per week up to 30 minutes a day depending on how much you get into the game.

If  you have any interest ,questions or thoughts . . .post below.

So far we have 3 confirmed interested parties -- we'd need 4 more.
1. Scott
2. Rod
3. Darrell
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on January 30, 2017, 06:50:16 AM
For the record - I played Diplomacy a handful of times in college. Needless to say it's been awhile. So if this is something you would be interested in trying don't feel like you'll be the only newbie. I'll be basically starting from scratch as well. But it's a pretty fun game, what makes it unique is there isn't any "randomness" in the form of a drawn card or dice roll. As Darrell suggested, it is just convincing others to do what you need.

Which I'll start that discussion by suggesting we might have to gang up on Darrell and Scott as they still play fairly regularly :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: David Johnson on January 30, 2017, 07:42:39 AM
I've always wanted to try it - but I'm going to need some hand-holding and a copy of the rules (if there are any).
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Rum Runners on January 30, 2017, 10:04:42 AM
I've always wanted to try it - but I'm going to need some hand-holding and a copy of the rules (if there are any).

This sounds like an involved, back-stabbing game of RISK. Let me think about it some more.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on January 30, 2017, 10:47:04 AM
Avalon Hill version of the rules.

https://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: scubadan on January 30, 2017, 03:04:37 PM
I'd be interested but it would have to outside of tax season. I can barely keep up with baseball stuff this time of year.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: dgonser on January 30, 2017, 04:14:55 PM
@dsj421 The rules are very simple.  The original rules can be more difficult than necessary due to how long ago they were written.  They can really be boiled down to an index card, but it is also very easy to "hold hands" for a few turns without hurting the game.

The rules really consist of learning vocabulary for a handful of words: HOLD, SUPPORT, CONVOY, MOVE.  I've attached a more precise set of rules. 

@scubadan I have a few friends in your line of work, so my sympathy for the workload this time of year. 

@Scurvy Dogs - You over estimate Scott's ability.  
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: thebuland on January 31, 2017, 06:32:37 PM
I'm a solid maybe.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on January 31, 2017, 07:08:14 PM
@dgonser you underestimate the fact that the game has already begun
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: dgonser on February 01, 2017, 09:41:36 AM
Oh...... This is going to be fun.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on March 08, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
We doing this?
Or were you just leading me on???

:)
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on January 22, 2019, 03:49:52 PM
FYI - Darrell, Scott, and myself (along with 4 others) did start this up a couple weeks ago and it's been a riot. Well, maybe not for whoever is/was Russia. They have been getting destroyed.

But this has been a lot of fun. If anyone is interested I'm sure we'll be starting up a new game this spring(ish). I will say that its a time commitment, but so far it's been worth it.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: dgonser on January 22, 2019, 08:00:16 PM
You sure that we will be trying this again?  I truly expect once you know who I am that we will never speak again!!!
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on January 22, 2019, 08:01:36 PM
Valid point - I so hope you are Russia. That would not end well for you.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: dgonser on January 22, 2019, 08:08:24 PM
About a week ago, I had a very bad day at work - lost a string of arguments.  It just so happens that about 2 hours later, the results of a turn at Diplomacy did not go my way.  I let out my entire frustrations of the day on some poor soul that I most likely do not know -- but had the misfortune to be controlling a neighboring nation.  As soon as I find the identity of that individual - I'll owe him a beer (or three).
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on February 13, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Now that we know who everyone was - I’m assuming you’re referencing Austria circa Spring 1902 and our failed southern alliance...
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on February 13, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
Since I have an addictive personality anyway - I’ll admit to being totally hooked.

David, Brent, Dan, Matt - at one point you guys mentioned giving it a try. My brain might melt from trying to do two games at the same time, but I’m up for it if you guys want to try? We need one more (assuming Darrell you’re in as well?)

And don’t feel like you’re up against experts. Darrell was the first one out, and I was right behind him. We, umm, didn’t play well.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Rum Runners on February 13, 2019, 08:24:13 PM
I'm up for giving it a try. Not sure what is different this time around.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: scubadan on February 14, 2019, 06:16:47 AM
What kind of time commitment would this be? If I can squeeze it into an 80-100 hour work week, I'd do it. If it takes a block of time, I'd probably have to wait until after 4/15.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on February 14, 2019, 07:42:28 AM
So they way we did it in the game that just ended (and it worked pretty well in my opinion) was you had 48 hours to finalize your orders for each round. During that time you were basically just sending emails to the other players trying to convince them to do what you need. So you’re going to get hooked into it, but you have time to make decisions and respond to people as well.

And honestly the first round was doubled so you have even more time to a) learn the rules and b) sort of figure out your primary alliance, etc
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: David Johnson on February 14, 2019, 07:48:44 AM
I'm in.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: thebuland on February 14, 2019, 08:51:32 AM
Keep me on the ask list, but I am going to have to decline this time around.  Just to all over this place with this new job.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on February 14, 2019, 10:43:03 AM
Keep me on the ask list, but I am going to have to decline this time around.  Just to all over this place with this new job.

Will do
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on February 14, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
So we got 4 (maybe 5 once Dan decides)

Rod
Darrell
Brent
David
Dan (maybe)

need 2 more. Anyone? Bueller?
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: scubadan on February 14, 2019, 05:16:29 PM
I'll try...just be patient with me this time of year.
Title: Re: Gauging interest in Diplomacy
Post by: Scurvy Dogs on December 18, 2022, 07:06:32 AM
This was a fascinating (but techy) read

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ade9097?fbclid=IwAR1Yrtv88qZxWhQuLYw_RYl9oNg149JcqgN_C-DWA3TMCDJo7SwCbHQCcu0 (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ade9097?fbclid=IwAR1Yrtv88qZxWhQuLYw_RYl9oNg149JcqgN_C-DWA3TMCDJo7SwCbHQCcu0)